Posts by Will Power

Thanks for the Warning - I'll Be Ready

by Will Power in

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friends

good morning all - i've moved this topic to friends.

first hello to old friends and a big welcome to all the newbies - wow - there are so many!.

regarding the new "special pioneer arrangement for april".. some of us might want to up-date our "educational pkgs" and keep them handy by the front door, either in the physical or mental form.. with all these extra callers on the streets we have more than enough time to calm ourselves and prepare.

Will Power

Good Morning All - I've moved this topic to FRIENDS

First HELLO to old friends and a big welcome to all the newbies - wow - there are so many!

Regarding the new "special pioneer arrangement for April".

Some of us might want to up-date our "educational pkgs" and keep them handy by the front door, either in the physical or mental form.

With all these extra callers on the streets we have more than enough time to calm ourselves and prepare. Practice deep controlled breathing to keep the heart rate regular. An empathic smile and genuine concerned questions go a long way. Can you imagine that instead of all the door slams or no thank-yous, these special aux pioneers were met with an intriging question.

Maybe this could be the new BILLBOARD - A call to action - Be Ready for April - Try this Question - answers at this website.

wp

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If you could ask one question to an active JW to get them to open their mind about their beliefs, what would it be?

by Franklin Massey in

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friends

this question was posed to me by a poster named ice cream.

i don't know my answer yet.

it's one of those, "if you could have just one wish.." kind of questions.

Will Power

Are you humble enough to accept the truth ?

about the Truth™?

what would you personally think about a teaching system that used self-recorded and verifiable deception to promote their unique doctrines?

Would it be right to trick someone into believing something - whatever that something might be?

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Cult...Cult...Cult...Cult!

by Cold Steel in

it seems that many people on this board get a certain amount of glee calling the jehovah's witness faith a "cult.

" especially former jehovah's witnesses.

and though it's true in a number of senses, we must be conscious of the fact that the early christians were considered by nearly everyone in roman and jewish society as a cult.

Will Power

I've got a quick comment here.

Cults can be benign and they can be dangerous.

follow the BITE formula.

B - Behaviour Control

I - Information Control

T - Thought Control

E - Emotional Control

You'll see.

good luck

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WTS: creative days took aeons - WT Feb 15th, 2011

by undercover in

there's already a couple of threads discussing this particular issue of kool-aid version of the wt, but i just had to start another after reading about the creative days mentioned in this issue.. we debate from time to time if the wts has ever officially retracted their doctrine that the earth and all things created are less than 50,000 years old.

there's been some quotes that show them waffling on the age of the planet itself but still sort of holding to the notion of all creation happening within a defineable 7 day period.

how long is a creative day?

Will Power

thank god for science LOL

Excellent points about things changing after the death of TedJ. Proves they are run by men or was it god waiting and waiting for that guy to die so that he could channel the new light to the NEXT overlapping generation of apostles.

good grief

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How do Jehovah's Witnesses Explain This Fossil Record?

by sabastious in

according to jws, evolution is false.

so how do they explain these human-like fossils?.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/human_evolution.

Will Power

debator:

why not just thank god for evolution and be done with it?

for anyone desperately trying to marry the two, there is a book "Thank God for Evolution" that might give you a way out.

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It's tough learning the truth

by Cook My Socks UK in

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friends

this just came to me(after a few jd's).. i need another study!

i was raised a jw as yound child and so have known nothing else(bar a few christmas and birthdays), what i read makes sense but doesn't make sense at the same time.

i find it easy to dismiss what i read here but inside know it's not being true to myself.

Will Power

one of the biggest things to remember is that the watchtower bible and tract society is NOT God.

They want you to believe they are one in the same and by extension - the people who represent IT - they give a face to the abstract concept. Please them = please god = you're saved.

don't drag GOD into their scheme.

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What is the most secularly acclaimed Bible translation?

by sabastious in

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friends

i want to start reading the bible more but i do not want to use the nwt.

the fact that the nwt took so many liberties makes me a little gunshy about other translations, which one would you recommend?.

-sab.

Will Power

wannabe.... regarding the book you cite, the chapter I found most interesting was the criticism of using the word Jehovah in the new testament where it should not be.

If this is where your JW understanding took a turn I can see why. Reading the passages without the J word gives each a whole new meaning that directly contradicts their unique doctrine - wonder why it's unique!

wp

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Reinstatement-Curent elders please reply

by truthlover in

while being reinstated several months ago -- no restriction were given other than no commenting - service was allowed - getting over the average for the cong, not missing meetings - its been months now and the brother met recently with someof the jc members - they praised his hours and meeting attendance but because his lessons are not completely underlined, and he does make notes during the meeting, he has not been allowed to still make comments and become a fully active member of the congregation as they say this note taking is causing a problem with other members of the congregation.. have you even heard of anything so off the wall?

is this the way its done in most cong??

he thought if someone was interested enough to listen and make notes of a good point in their mags, it would be something to be referred to in the future... i know i have seen folks doing this while the lesson is being read.... .

Will Power

not an elder's response but

Has he thought of washing their cars? or mowing their lawns?

yes master, I'll do anything, thank you so much for letting me read a word for word (slightly changed) comment.

the representatives of the representatives of Jesus' representatives deserve every inch of humble submission because I do not want to lose my family and friends.

egads, sorry about that.wp

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Elder's message to me, on me being disfellowshipped tomorrow.

by whereami in

jw
friends

it saddens me greatly to see all that has happened and to see my friends in this position.

for me its a great loss but i hope that it will only be temporary.

please allow jehovahs discipline to mold you and youre way of thinking.

Will Power

If you love your wife - try waiting on Jehovah to show her the light, while making life with you the best there is.

F@#& the rest.

wp

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talking to my Mom about the JW's - I need some help

by James_Slash in

firstly, i left the jw's about 5 years ago.. my mom is still in.. i've spoken to her on a number of issues and even though she has doubts that the jw's are the 'true' religion, mainly due to the paedophile scandal and the generation changes, she said to me today that "if the jw's are not the true religion, then who is?

" she also stated that it was jesus' command in the bible to "preach the good news of the kingdom - only jw's do that".. what can i come back with?.

Will Power

I also agree that In Search of Christian Freedom is a great place to start.

but check this out! THE JWS ARE NO WAY THE ONLY ONES

http://www.beyondtoday.tv/

These guys sound like a mirror image of the WT society. They also say they are the ones preaching the good news of the kingdom.

Be careful tho - these guys are an offshoot of the WCG. That other cult run by Herbert Armstrong.

They have tons of publications as well: (called the Good News A Magazine of Understanding) WOW

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